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Historical account, 15 October 2026. D3 revised R01 and P05, bounded A21 and added fifteen candidates. The 24 October D3c head says the C5 account has not yet been rewritten for those amendments. Read the D3 handback alongside this earlier account. D3 handback, 24 October.

The run later retold the model and audited its limits. Read the final D6 account and E1/E2 audits for the completed run. Completed v43 results.

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Fourth-order themes, stage C1 (cut at C1a-10)

These are the fourth-order themes of stage C1, section 8: named groups of third-order themes, each a construct from the moment it was cut. They partition the third-order tier of scheme_v2.jsonl: each third-order theme sits in one fourth-order theme, and a second-order theme reaches two only through its own placements (rule 0). The lines are in fourth/fourth.jsonl; each cut is a line in tier_history.jsonl (tier fourth, event created, move merging or relating), a move line in the diary and a snap. The specs, and the reasons for each bundle, are in out/_analysis/c1_t4_specs.json.

The stories are provisional. They are the structure stage C2 starts from, and C2 may change any of them. No number was set: the material carries 28 constructs over 195 of the 197 third-order themes, and the diary says why. Every borrowed or adapted source is recalled, since only the method shelf is held at C1; stage C3 checks each against a text and verifies or withdraws it. The form-pass findings in form_pass-C1.md are a tier of their own; they are not members of any fourth-order theme.

The next table lists each fourth-order theme with its declaration, its move, the number of third-order themes it holds, and the placement lines and rooms whose second-order themes reach it through any of their placed themes. The reach is description, not a share: a line placed on two fourth-order themes is counted under each.

id name declared move third-order themes lines reached rooms reached
T4-001 Keying adapted relating 10 834 368
T4-002 Boundary work adapted merging 8 395 274
T4-003 Sensemaking borrowed merging 3 348 283
T4-004 Frame bridging adapted merging 4 305 242
T4-005 Mobilization adapted merging 5 419 370
T4-006 Collective representation adapted merging 10 563 425
T4-007 Stigmergy borrowed merging 3 443 348
T4-008 Standardization of output borrowed merging 5 267 237
T4-009 Workarounds adapted merging 8 287 236
T4-010 Backstage decision-making adapted relating 7 296 276
T4-011 Decided order borrowed merging 8 48 46
T4-012 Collective efficacy borrowed merging 5 95 89
T4-013 Repair work adapted merging 6 692 526
T4-014 Territoriality borrowed merging 7 320 262
T4-015 Live and let live borrowed relating 11 248 205
T4-016 Negotiated order borrowed merging 11 550 467
T4-017 Reciprocity borrowed relating 7 358 284
T4-018 Meta-organization borrowed merging 9 239 194
T4-019 Attribution adapted relating 4 179 155
T4-020 Repertoire of contention adapted merging 7 270 231
T4-021 Rivalry borrowed merging 5 135 116
T4-022 Flagging the nation adapted merging 12 234 124
T4-023 Neo-tribes borrowed merging 6 56 35
T4-024 Symbolic boundaries adapted merging 5 54 49
T4-025 Visibility returns coined relating 9 129 117
T4-026 Completion ritual adapted merging 8 696 522
T4-027 Collective memory borrowed merging 6 508 381
T4-028 Transition adapted merging 6 249 213

T4-001. Keying

The canvas opened on April Fools' Day, and many subs laid a play frame over their own space. What holds this bundle together is that frame and the work of keeping it: someone sets it, others play inside it, others ask of any claim whether it is in the frame or out, some object that the play is in the way and switch it off, some want what was made in play to outlast the day, and some answer a company's play in earnest. The frame gives a room a shared joke to perform. It also makes every announcement, a call to the canvas included, open to the question whether it is meant. Much canvas work went on inside, beside or against this frame.

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T4-002. Boundary work

Every room was a standing community before the canvas opened, with its own subject and rules, and the canvas arrived as a flood of posts about something else. This bundle is the community deciding what belongs in its space and what the event is worth to it. The means are moderators' rules, removals, a single thread, a separate sub, members' objections and arguments that the canvas is worth nothing. Boundary work shaped the canvas effort from outside: it settled where the work could be talked about and whether the work was the community's or a side project of some of its members.

Members (placement lines, rooms):

T4-003. Sensemaking

The canvas was new, changed by the minute and showed up in every sub at once. This bundle is the room building a working account of an equivocal object from cues and mostly after the fact: what the event is and how one takes part, what a picture or detail shows, what the neighbours made. The account is what lets a newcomer place a first pixel and lets a member read what has happened to the room's corner. Because the explanation often goes to someone who asked, the same account recruits.

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T4-004. Frame bridging

Rooms did not meet the canvas with a blank vocabulary. What holds this bundle together is the direction of borrowing: an interpretive frame the room already held, its running jokes, its fandom's lore, its own quarrels or its politics, is bridged to the new episode, so that the episode becomes another chapter of the room's story. The bridge is how a room makes a strangers' event its own, and it is why the same act on the canvas is told so differently from room to room.

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T4-005. Mobilization

A picture of any size needs many pixels from many people within hours, and nobody can be ordered to place. This bundle gathers hands, from the room's own members first and from kindred subs after, by calls, encouragement, a time set for placing together, and sometimes by keeping the call quiet so it draws no attackers. The call is cheap to make, and the form pass found the answer to it cheaper still. Mobilization is how a room turns a crowd's attention into placed pixels, and its absence is the first reason a proposed work never appears.

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T4-006. Collective representation

Before a room can build, it must decide what it will show of itself. What holds this bundle together is that the mark is the room's emblem: proposing it, designing it, signing it or leaving it unsigned, honouring a creator or the dead through it, and claiming a mark that others made or began are all choices about what the room is, and members argue them as such. The emblem is also what the room later defends, mourns and takes into its banner.

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T4-007. Stigmergy

Once a mark is begun, the mark coordinates. The trace on the canvas tells the next placer what is missing and where; a half-done logo is a call no one had to post. What holds this bundle together is work organized through the work: building and reporting progress, growing the mark beyond its first form, and adding a personal piece to a mark many share all read the state of the canvas and change it for the next placer. This is the coordination the template formalizes and the backstage plans, and it runs without either.

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T4-008. Standardization of output

A template specifies the output pixel by pixel, so strangers who never speak can place toward one picture. What holds this bundle together is the standard: an object that settles in advance what each pixel should be, and so replaces argument with reference. Members circulate it, ask for it, hold strays to it, demand one plan when calls scatter, and write to individual placers who depart from it. The standard is the room's strongest coordination at scale, and also the point where scripts can take over the placing.

Members (placement lines, rooms):

T4-009. Workarounds

The clock the rooms did not set is the cooldown: one pixel per account per interval. What holds this bundle together is that rule and the collective wish to place faster than the members can. Rooms built machine hands and extra accounts and shared their targets; once they had them, they had to govern them, arguing whether they were fair, switching off old versions that fought the plan, and teaching a script to spare a neighbour. The workaround turns a fixed clock into a capacity that some rooms had and others did not.

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T4-010. Backstage decision-making

Many rooms moved their planning out of the thread into a chat, most often a Discord. The acts in this bundle relate to that move: making it or refusing it, choosing the venue, bringing its decisions back, keeping plans from rivals who read the thread and watching theirs. The move creates a backstage where fewer people decide faster and in private, and a front stage where the rest learn the result. It brings speed and secrecy, and it raises the question no thread had asked: who may speak in the chat, and whether its plan binds those who were not there.

Members (placement lines, rooms):

T4-011. Decided order

Most rooms organized without anyone deciding how they were organized. This bundle holds the exceptions, where a room decides an element of formal organization: a hierarchy, a vote or election, a division of the work, membership and oaths, a sanction on its own vandals, a succession; and at the other pole the room that says outright it has no plan. Ahrne and Brunsson's point is that organization can be partial, a decided element or two without a formal organization. Here decided order is rare, which the form pass also found in the absence of the question who leads.

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T4-012. Collective efficacy

Before and during the work, members judged aloud what the room could do. What holds this bundle together is that shared belief about the room's capability, voiced as doubt: too few people, a canvas too full, a room absent or outclassed, defenders told to give up, members quitting under strain. It is the other face of mobilization: a call says the room can, these say it cannot, and the belief shapes whether hands come and stay.

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T4-013. Repair work

A finished work on the canvas does not stay finished: stray pixels, neighbours' growth and attacks wear it away within hours. What holds this bundle together is maintenance against erosion: watching, fixing, defending under attack, covering the night, reshaping the mark to resist tampering, and choosing to keep what is held before growing. The theory question's last clause turns on it. Whether the work is kept alive depends on whether a room sustains repair after the excitement of building has passed.

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T4-014. Territoriality

The canvas is finite, and a mark needs a place. What holds this bundle together is the feeling and expression of ownership over a place no one owns: a room's claim rests on having been there first and having made something there, and others mostly treat the claim as real. Choosing a spot, holding it, yielding it, granting part of it, weighing a fight for a lost spot against a move, and moving all work on that claim. Territoriality is what turns a free canvas into a map of holdings.

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T4-015. Live and let live

Most neighbours never agreed anything, and most spared each other anyway. The acts in this bundle relate as a cycle: restraint offered, a defection, an appeal or an apology, restraint restored, and the argument over whether covering is fair at all. The system needs no agreement because each room meets its neighbour again and again within hours. It explains why the open canvas was not a war of all against all, and why a single member's defection could set off a quarrel the room then had to repair.

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T4-016. Negotiated order

Where tacit restraint was not enough, rooms talked. What holds this bundle together is order as the outcome of continuing negotiation: borders, truces and deals made by envoys across threads and languages, held to by reminders and accusations of breach, disputed afterwards, and always facing one difficulty, who can speak for a room whose placers no one commands. It explains why the canvas's borders were dense with talk, and why an agreement was only as good as a room's hold over its own placers.

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T4-017. Reciprocity

Help crossed between rooms constantly, and it was rarely free of accounts. The acts in this bundle relate through the norm Gouldner named: help creates an obligation to return it, acknowledged in thanks and greetings, honoured in counter-help, traded outright, or broken by a refusal. Reciprocity explains how rooms that could compel no one could still count on hands beyond their own members.

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T4-018. Meta-organization

Some organizing on the canvas had rooms, not people, as its members. What holds this bundle together is a room's membership in a body of rooms, with the body deciding something for its members: kindred hubs, hosts that admit and rule on others' building, shelter under a bigger neighbour, named alliances, shared councils, joint marks. It explains how many small rooms held space they could not have held alone, and why a room's standing could depend on another room's approval.

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T4-019. Attribution

No pixel carries a name, so every change to a work is a puzzle. The acts in this bundle relate through inference about the author and intent of a change: tracing who did it, finding that it was a friend or a mistake, blaming the site's or the sub's officers, and telling others that placers acting in the room's name are not the room's. The attribution decides whether a room repairs quietly, forgives, appeals or strikes back. It is the hinge between restraint and contention.

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T4-020. Repertoire of contention

Attack on the canvas took a small number of recurring forms, learned and copied from room to room. What holds this bundle together is that these were the moves a room had to hand when it chose to contest others' work, and every rival knew them too: erasing, encroaching, converting another's sign, raiding on a streamer's call, planting a hostile script, harassing a person off the site, griefing for fun. The repertoire is what repair and restraint had to answer.

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T4-021. Rivalry

Some contests became relationships. What holds this bundle together is rivalry: a competitive relationship with a history, in which one other room matters more than any other and outdoing it is a stake of its own. Taunts and chants before, victory claims and salutes after, grievances kept past the close all address that one rival. Rivalry raises effort and lengthens memory, and it is one reason some fights went far beyond what the space was worth.

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T4-022. Flagging the nation

Rooms named for a nation, state or region mostly made its flag, and making it was never only a picture. What holds this bundle together is the nation reproduced through a shared, ordinary artefact: members felt national through it, filled it with emblems, helped kin nations and joined flags in friendship, cast canvas fights as historic wars, read politics into it, argued who belongs, and mocked rival peoples. It explains why national rooms organized fast and fought hard: the flag carries a membership that was in place before the canvas opened.

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T4-023. Neo-tribes

The canvas grew its own collectives, with no sub behind them at first: colour factions and the void. What holds this bundle together is a grouping formed around a shared aesthetic and held by affect and ritual, fluid in membership and quick to divide: people join by placing a colour, hail it, spread it, defect from its rivals, give their pixels to an outside group's build, and split over what it stands for. These are the canvas's own organizations, and the other rooms met them as forces, as the form pass found.

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T4-024. Symbolic boundaries

Anyone could place anything, and some placed swastikas and slurs. What holds this bundle together is the moral line of the open canvas, drawn and enforced by the rooms themselves: hate symbols covered, bigoted talk shut down, symbols and jokes judged, and the transgressions that provoked them. It explains how a surface with no written rules on content still kept, mostly, to rules no one had written.

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T4-025. Visibility returns

The canvas was watched by the whole site and then by the press, and a mark on it was seen by people who had never visited the room. The acts in this bundle relate through what being seen brings back: rooms courted the audience through the site's rankings and listings, put demands and slogans before it and hoped their creators would notice, then counted and feared the return, newcomers, returning fans, coverage, a sub swamped by visitors. It explains why some rooms built for an audience beyond themselves, and how the canvas changed the communities that took part.

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T4-026. Completion ritual

When a work was up, the room marked it. What holds this bundle together is the ritual of completion: shared attention on a finished thing that turns many strangers' pixels into 'we did it', with credit to makers and defenders, members' own parts told, prizes handed out, the meaning of working with strangers said aloud, and comfort drawn from being seen. The ritual pays the members whom no one could pay, and it produces the emblems and stories the room keeps.

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T4-027. Collective memory

The canvas was going to end, and works were lost before it did. What holds this bundle together is the making of a record the room can hold once the canvas is gone, shaped by what the room needs to remember: images saved as the work stood, accounts of what happened to it, mourning, the art imagined but never placed, entries in the shared atlas, the end marked. It explains how a three-day effort outlived the surface it was made on.

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T4-028. Transition

When the canvas closed, each room had to decide what of its temporary effort to keep. What holds this bundle together is passage: the temporary organization ends, and something of it moves into the permanent community or out into the world, the work carried to later canvases or remade in other media, the canvas sub given a new purpose, the mark taken into the sub's banner, a tie with another room kept, the shared work sold or argued over. It explains which forms outlived the clock.

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Third-order themes no fourth-order theme picks up

They are listed, not gathered into a catch-all (section 8).