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Chronology
The room was still carrying its ordinary mixture of employment,
travel, education, and news discussion when the canvas opened. The first
visible r/place episode runs from 62nvdi to
dfoxfd2. At d0 03-31 20:26, the surviving post title
called, “let's destroy the swedes on /r/place!” (62nvdi),
and a reply supplied coordinates (dfnzq12). By d0 04-01
00:33, a larger thread located two Norwegian flags and said the bigger
one “need[ed]” fixing (62pf3j). The exchange then became
practical: “make the white line twice as thick” (dfolzu2),
“Upper left corner 1st!” (dfom3hp), and a specification of
12 red, 2 white, 4 blue, 2 white, and 12 red (62s629).
Expansion and defence were already contested rather than sequential
community positions: one post called for a bigger flag
(62pf3j), while another said a larger territory was harder
to defend and urged protecting the existing flag from Sweden
(62sncg). A Danish speaker then proposed a joint attack on
Sweden after things calmed down (dfoxfd2). These are
contrasting positions expressed by different speakers, not evidence that
the room collectively changed its mind.
The second episode, from dfp78sd to
dfqkjvr, mixed artwork, accommodation, and renewed
territorial claims across d1 and early d2. Participants asked that an
ostehøvel be integrated rather than destroyed (dfp78sd),
granted an unidentified visitor permission to treat the flag “as your
own” (dfpd8bv), and chose a hanging flag instead of
expansion in answer to r/factorio (dfq2fk7). A request to
stop attacking r/crusaderkings was answered with “We made a pact. We're
helping you guys now” (dfq2ene), followed by thanks
(dfq2g68) and “No worries mates” (dfq2jp0). At
the same time, other speakers still proposed turning the Danish flag
Norwegian (dfoytgc), refused r/Madeon's request because “we
will claim the area” (dfpbsa2), and asked why expansion
toward Day9 continued while Crusader Kings covered the flag
(62zbly). A Swedish participant reported helping all night
to keep the heart between the flags (dfqd5k6), while the
original poster later said it was mostly r/norge “fighting the good
fight” (dfqkjvr).
The third and largest episode, from 632j25 to
dfrx3ig, began at d2 04-02 21:53 and ran to d3 04-03 16:11,
shortly before placement stopped. Outsiders repeatedly arrived with
proposals or complaints: Texas proposed hearts among four flags
(632j25), Steven Universe said Norway was invading its
remaining space (632xaq), Texas asked Norway to leave its
flag unchanged (634mc0), chess requested room for a piece
(634p2y), Slovakia asked Norway to stop eating its flag
(636ank), Yogscast brought a request (636yhk),
and FFXIV asked permission to claim a space (637igs).
The recurrent response was routing. Participants said r/norge was
“the main Norwegian sub” coordinating the flag (dfr076f),
that “all the r/place action” was there (dfriz24), and that
r/Norge was “the sub behind the flag” while r/Norway was the
tourist/English-speaking sub (dfrn6db). Others directed
diplomacy to Discord (dfrohx2; dfroeo9).
Routing did not mean uniform accommodation. Texas was told “Your flag
has to go” to make space for Norwegian art (dfrgd2p); FFXIV
was refused because Norway had artwork plans (dfrvohp), and
its requester then said it would look elsewhere (dfrx3ig).
Slovakia, by contrast, received a report that a Discord poll supported
peace (dfrogwe).
After placement ended, the final coded episode runs from
638exb to dfsbipw. At d3 04-03 17:50, Dutch
participants wrote that they were honoured to have been Norway's ally
(638exb). A reply celebrated that they had “stayed friends
untill the game ended” (dfs6i7s), and another identified
the missing context as r/place (dfsbipw). After that, the
visible room returned to its ordinary subjects: “2017 snow conditions”
(638vj1), “Travelling advice appreciated!”
(639baz), and a “tax table query”
(63evq9).
Relations — what set off what
The clearest relations are direct textual answers, not mere reply adjacency.
In the early repair exchange, “Everyone join in and make the line
thicker” (dfom165) is answered 2.4 minutes later by “We
gotta coordinate” and “Upper left corner 1st!” (dfom3hp).
The later turn explicitly takes up the requested repair and supplies a
starting point. This supports a call-and-coordination relation; it does
not establish that the first comment caused the later one.
r/Madeon's request asked whether Norway could go around its logo
(dfp8b66). The reply 1.4 hours later said, “Sorry, you have
to find another place for your logo, we will claim the area”
(dfpbsa2). The words make this a refusal of the
request.
The r/factorio post said, “Stop attacking /r/factorio please”
(62yuxs). Eighteen and a half minutes later, the reply
stated, “We decided on a hanging flag instead of expansion. You guys
should be good” (dfq2fk7). This supports an observed answer
in which a participant presents a changed plan as reassurance. The
corpus does not show who “we” includes or the decision process, so it
does not support a community-wide causal claim.
The r/crusaderkings post made the same kind of request
(62yvzd). Six point eight minutes later, “We made a pact.
We're helping you guys now” (dfq2ene) directly answered it;
the following thanks (dfq2g68) and “No worries”
(dfq2jp0) complete the exchange. A duplicate posted turn
repeats the pact (dfq2enk). This supports the existence of
a publicly affirmed pact in this exchange, not proof that every builder
followed it.
The Steven Universe ambassador said Norway was invading its remaining
space (632xaq). A response 1.7 hours after the post did not
settle the border; it explained that r/norge coordinated the flag and
supplied a thread there (dfr076f). The same thread contains
a participant's own explanation that “Some kids took over the discord
channel” and wanted expansion for its own sake (dfrdpn5).
That is a participant's attribution of responsibility. The supplied
record does not independently establish the actors, takeover, or causal
effect.
Slovakia's post asked Norway to stop eating its flag
(636ank). A later top-level comment reported that “A poll
on our discord server resulted in a majority in support of peace between
our nations” (dfrogwe). The shared object—peace between the
named nations—supports treating the report as an answer to the appeal.
It remains a report about an unseen poll, not direct evidence of the
poll or compliance on the canvas.
FFXIV asked permission to stake a claim (dfrv4s0). Ten
and a half minutes after that comment, a reply said Norway had artwork
plans of its own (dfrvohp); at 38.8 minutes after the
opening post, the requester thanked everyone and said it would look
elsewhere (dfrx3ig). The words support request, refusal,
and acceptance in sequence. Elsewhere, posts and replies merely follow
one another; where no later passage names or answers an earlier
practice, this account treats the order as sequence only.
Posts against comments
The post layer is dominated by summons, proposals, and incoming appeals. The comment layer more often supplies coordinates, decisions, refusals, explanations, and routes to another venue.
Several layers align. The post asking r/crusaderkings to be spared
(62yvzd) is followed by comments affirming a pact and help
(dfq2ene; dfq2enk). The FFXIV post asks for
space (637igs), and the comments answer the request, refuse
it, and record the requester's acceptance (dfrvohp;
dfrx3ig).
The explicit contradictions are:
- The post says Norway should let the Texas flag stay
(
632nt8); the comment layer says “put your flag somewhere else” (dfrf8qr) and “Your flag has to go” (dfrgd2p). - The post calls for making Norway's flag bigger
(
62pf3j); a later comment in another retained thread says a hanging flag was chosen “instead of expansion” (dfq2fk7). This is a descriptive contrast between speakers, not proof of a settled reversal. - The flag-proportions post treats correctness as urgent
(
62s629); one comment dismisses the conflict as “just a flag” (dfouqgf), and its reply turns the dismissal into a joke—“You're just a flag!” (dfov93w). - The Steven Universe post attributes invasion to Norway
(
632xaq); comments relocate agency to r/norge (dfr076f) or, in one participant's explanation, to “kids” in Discord (dfrdpn5). The post/comment contrast identifies competing attributions, not which attribution is true.
A claim found mainly in comments is that r/Norway was the wrong
operational venue: r/norge coordinated the flag (dfr076f),
the action happened there (dfriz24), and r/Norway was
described as the tourist/English-speaking sub (dfrn6db). A
claim found mainly in post titles is the flood of outsiders' appeals,
many with removed bodies; their comments preserve where respondents sent
them.
Counter-reading
My reading is that r/Norway served mainly as an overflow desk where outsiders brought canvas disputes and were repeatedly sent to r/norge or Discord, while a smaller set of participants also rallied repairs, expansion, art, pacts, and defence inside this venue.
If that reading were wrong, the corpus should instead contain participants repeatedly claiming decisions and coordinated attacks in r/Norway, or identifying r/Norway—rather than r/norge or Discord—as the group behind the flag.
The strongest contrary item is dfom3hp: “We gotta
coordinate so people understand where we are going, and join in. Upper
left corner 1st!” It occurs in 62pf3j, an early thread that
genuinely coordinates flag repair here. The broad contrary search over
the complete supplied record returned 33 items. After every returned
item was opened, the consequential hits also included “We decided on a
hanging flag instead of expansion” (dfq2fk7), “we will
claim the area” (dfpbsa2), “We need space for Norwegian
art” (dfrgd2p), and an attempted attack on Texas “on your
behalf” that found Norway too few (dfqh28a). The search
therefore rules out a pure “nothing was organised here” account. It
added the last of those as a late code and also recovered the separately
posted repetition of the Crusader Kings pact (dfq2enk).
A narrower full-record search for r/Norway near words such as
coordinate, behind, decide, or
organise produced one textual hit, but reading it showed the
opposite claim: r/norge was coordinating the flag and r/Norway was “not
that much used” (dfr076f). The parallel search for r/norge
near coordinate, behind, or action returned
three items; after reading them, all three located coordination or
action in r/norge (dfr076f; dfriz24;
dfrn6db). Thus the revised reading is that real but limited
live coordination occurred here, especially early, while the later
diplomatic flood was mostly redirected. The conclusion survives with
that qualification.
The targeted absence cannot prove that nobody elsewhere treated r/Norway as central. Eighty-three supplied items have deleted or removed text, off-platform talk is only glimpsed through reports and links, and the search can test only the supplied record.
Saturation
The record is sufficient to show the venue's recurring practices:
rallying flag work, taking or refusing space, asking for restraint,
negotiating pacts, redirecting business, and policing the
tourist/English-sub boundary. Redirecting repeats from “Better asked at
/r/norge” (dfp9x9h) through the late Shawn appeal
(dfrs5oq). The counter-reading added two passages to
existing themes and required no new theme, so later checking repeated
the established practice structure rather than opening a new one.
The record is not whole as an account of Norwegian canvas organising.
Discord carried expansion talk, a poll, and diplomacy according to
participants (dfrdpn5; dfrogwe;
dfrohx2), but the deliberation itself is unseen.
Participants repeatedly say r/norge was the coordinating venue
(dfr076f; dfriz24; dfrn6db),
which this case can identify but not reconstruct. Removed bodies are
especially consequential in incoming diplomatic posts, and the archive
cannot show what those bodies originally asked beyond surviving titles
and replies.
Selection
I read brief.md and the complete
openings.md before triage, as required for a branch-A lead.
The openings supplied orientation to the week but were not coded and do
not support a relation. I then followed all 97 threads in corpus order
through the instrument's windows, opened every thread whose window
touched r/place, and retained 35 as coded. Ordinary travel, employment,
education, tax, news, and entertainment threads were disposed as out of
scope; every read out-of-scope thread with at least ten in-window items
carries the instrument-returned exclusion citation.
The selection includes conduct around the canvas, incoming diplomacy, post-event recollection, and r/Norway's own handling of misplaced r/place talk. It does not treat a bare ambiguous title as event evidence when the body and replies do not establish the connection.
Other communities named
r/norge is the central named neighbour in this case, not as an ally
or enemy but as the Norwegian venue participants say coordinated the
flag (dfr076f). r/factorio and r/crusaderkings appear in
requests to stop attacks; the former receives reassurance about ending
expansion (dfq2fk7), while the latter receives an affirmed
pact (dfq2ene). r/Madeon asks Norway to go around its logo
and is refused (dfp8b66; dfpbsa2). r/texas and
r/stevenuniverse make repeated appeals against invasion
(6340w3; 632xaq). r/chess and r/ffxiv ask for
space (634p2y; 637igs), and r/ffxiv accepts a
refusal (dfrx3ig). r/nordvei is named as a venue for
strategy talk (dfrkdhy). Discord is the one off-platform
venue participants describe as carrying organising and diplomacy; what
returns to r/Norway are reports, links, and policy claims rather than
the deliberation itself.
Absence
The header records 83 deleted or removed items, including 43 posts.
This matters because many diplomatic posts survive only as titles: “Stop
attacking /r/crusaderkings please” (62yvzd), “Please, stop
eating our flag” (636ank), and “Please, Stop ruining our
flag” (636ch1). Their surviving replies still show pacts,
redirection, and reported policy, but the missing bodies prevent fuller
reconstruction of terms, images, and reasons.
The account does not infer deleted words, unseen images, canvas outcomes, or Discord deliberations. It treats surviving titles as published text, attributes image descriptions to the commenters who supplied them, and leaves claims about off-platform decisions as participant reports.